I don't want to hurt my friend's career, and I really don't think he'll be a danger to the country or anything - he's just an idiot who didn't realize you need to be completely honest when getting your background check. Contact a Military OneSource non-medical counselor at 800-342-9647 to help you identify the kind of help you need and put you in . The U.S. government provides this clearance only to federal employees and contractors whose job duties require secure access. I live around DC, in Virginia, so a lot of my friends are getting security clearances in order to go into Government contracting jobs. College senior going into first year of work and am receiving forms to begin with my security clearance process. If so, The pre-employment questionnaire is not a Federal form (unless issued from an Agency). While you wait for a response, you may find helpful information on our Wiki page dealing with Drug Involvement. When filling out the Questionnaire for National Security Positions (SF-86) there is a section right after the instructions you have to acknowledge as having read. you have a tougher, more steep hill to climb here besides prior drug use. 21 comments share save hide report 72% Upvoted This thread is archived the whole-person concept.. While I understand the urge to want to hide past indiscretions, its always better to be honest about these things. If youre currently employed, checking on your clearance is easy simply request your Facility Security Officer inquire about the status of your clearance. In order for someone to be eligible for security clearance, he or she must Many enlistees going into the military provide false or erroneous information on security clearance applications in order to get past the screeners. He asked me to withhold information to match what he put down. I plan to bring up my mistake on the previous SF86. Its why its probably likely its due to who is judging the case right? You risk possible criminal charges for lying to the feds. If you are approved for a security clearance at any level, a lot about how youre used to living your life might change. And if anything in their past is recorded elsewhere, an investigation will find it, and asking others to lie will not go well. There's a chance they might not even call you. Hey there! You are an admitted liar. Falsifying information on the SF-86 is a felony that can result in fines or five years in prison. Also, you don't really make clear in your OP, but how do you know that he "partied hard"? Security Clearance We frequently warn of the importance of security clearance applicants being honest on government forms, including the SF-86 security clearance application. If you have not used since 2013, recommend pulling back SF86. If a pre-employment questionnaire asked about drug use it may be because they already know this may be a reason your clearance would be denied. If convicted, the criminal penalties include fines of up to $10,000 and/or imprisonment up to five years. My advice is to go directly to your security manager, tell him the lies (without making excuses), and get your SF 86 updated. In this investigation, maturity led him to admit to smoking MJ in High School. Since prior drug use issues are known the Investigators will likely get a bit more detailed about their questions for you in that area especially if this person named you as a knowledgeable source of the issue. Hey all, College senior going into first year of work and am receiving forms to begin with my security clearance process. Be honest if you want, to the full extent you want, but know that the details you have might not even be asked for in the first place and if you get in too deep or feel uncomfortable you can always say you're not sure. Thats it. is worthy of a security clearance, and not considered a security I understand that if I withhold, misrepresent, or falsify, information on this form, I am subject to the penalties for inaccurate or false statement per US criminal code title 18 section 1001 denial or revocation of a security clearance, and/or removal and debarment from Federal Service. Kushner was not granted full security clearance until May of 2018, almost a year and a half into his role as a senior advisor pertaining to matters in the Middle East. if the applicant was open and honest about it. If youre not currently employed, the process of ascertaining your security clearance status becomes a bit trickier. case or situation. As long as you aren't a terrible airman in other areas, I seriously doubt this is grounds for discharge. This was happening under the Obama administration, the Clinton administration," Ivanka Trump said. I recently just received my offer letter and read it will require a TS / SCI security clearance which from my research being honest is key(nice one i know). This was a lie as I had smoked weed a couple times from 2010 - 2013 and tried cocaine once in 2011. On December 21, 2021, particularly in response to the changing landscape of marijuana use under state law, Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines issued a memorandum clarifying the guidance. Thus, applicants are highly encouraged to consider speaking with an experienced attorney prior to taking a polygraph examination. On my security paperwork for my clearance I left out that I was fired from a job for stealing more than $500 worth of merchandise. Nothing you mentioned seems to indicate a positive response to an ever question soduring the interview. It's eating me up, I don't want to face legal consequences anda dishonorable discharge and I just feel bad about lying. Categories Blog "I stand by my record - I will put up. It is a federal crime to lie to an investigator for background checks. If they think you're lying for him, they may or may not charge you, but either way you risk any potential future clearance that you might want. You definitely have a fraudulent enlistment issue. Falsifying information on the SF-86 is a felony that can result in fines or five years in prison. This I was truthful on. Also a practical matter. I really only included the stuff I think would work against me. A U.S. Marine Veteran (Ret.) We can be reached at 202-787-1900. But if someone knew he hid it, it could be used to influence him. Press J to jump to the feed. Sooner or later you will require a new SF86 though. You can decline to participate with no repercussions. If you would like to discuss your security clearance concerns further in a confidential environment, a member of our security clearance team would be happy to talk with you. inspected. DCSA can only discuss case status information with authorized contacts from your branch of service. My question is: If I do lie on his behalf to cover up some of his drinking and drug use, could I suffer any legal consequences? Even if you only lied by accident, say because you misunderstood the scope of a question, Department of Defense (DOD) officials are not going to cut you any slack. 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If you're currently employed, checking on your clearance is easy - simply request your Facility Security Officer inquire about the status of your clearance. Its amazing. What's good is that you recognize that you are in the wrong and thankfully not majorly so. Prof Rory Medcalf, the head of the Australian National University's national security college, called for the government to review the security clearance system. Who decides if I get a security clearance? What is the statute here? . If you are notified of an intent to deny or revoke your security clearance, you have the right . If you're ready to seek help for any type of psychological or personal issue, you have many counseling service options. 2023 ClearanceJobs - All rights reserved. There are obviously more factors considered than just your weed use. I've done a few interviews as a reference for background checks, and I've always been candid. Fave hike: the Grouse Grind, Vancouver, BC. I'm late to the party but I actually conduct these field investigations for clearances and have some useful insight here. President Donald Trump ordered a top-secret security clearance be granted to Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and senior adviser, last May despite objections raised by intelligence and White House officials, four people familiar with the matter told The New York Times. My job requires a security clearance. In addition to being truthful, here are four rules to keep in mind if you need to take a polygraph for a government position. With the increasing implementation of Continuous Evaluation for security clearance holders, government agencies are increasingly using CE enrollment as establishing a current versus expired clearance. denied a security clearance. number of variables are carefully weighed in what is commonly known as A computer sends everything out initially, for all case types. Security clearances aren't denied simply because people have a colored past. Edit: also the level of incorrect information in here is worrisome. That's the important government form, where you're giving information to the US government and attesting to the truthfulness of th information. A commenter on the thread seconds saying, denials dont come from testimonies; they lead us (background investigators) to official records, etc.. If it's the latter, don't answer questions based on heresay. When you get your EQIP link to fill out your SF86, list the drug use. You can double down on the lie and leave it off of your application again but you need to be aware that you may need a poly at some time in the future and that may not go well if you are already conflicted about lying. Whether or not a certain job will require a security clearance is determined by the employer. What, if anything, you decide to do about . Ive read a few of your previous comments on some folks in similar situations as me. Even with security clearance, an employee or contractor must prove their need to know secure information before receiving access. Flash forward to 2020 where I am now active and trying to get an another position which requires a TS. When they come around asking questions about your Friend, they're also going to ask you about other people that know him - "You mentioned he knows Tim? What about the other side of the coin a reference you provide lies during the investigation? All reliable, past and present information about the applicant, Indeed, your clearance could be denied because you lied, even though what you were seeking to conceal would not, in itself, have caused a problem. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. They may also be interviewed by their employer, a security official, an investigator, a government representative, or a competent medical authority, or any combination thereof. If you lie you're committing a federal offense. But facts dont matter, right? 1.3K BackgroundCheckTA 5 yr. ago This thread has been locked by the moderators of r/legaladvice. In addition, Federal agencies generally fire, do not grant a security clearance, or disqualify individuals who have materially and deliberately falsified these forms, and this remains a part of the permanent record for future placements. Katie Keller is a marketing fanatic that enjoys anything digital, communications, promotions & events. So, bottom line: chill tf out it's not a big deal. However, personal conduct, drug involvement, and security violations are three reasons that we frequently encounter in our work. But they definitely aren't forgiving of folks lying on their forms. What, if anything, you decide to do about correcting the pre employment form is up to you. Democrats have called on the White House to revoke Kushner's security clearance CNN The head of a government bureau responsible for clearing background checks told lawmakers Wednesday he. I got interview recently as a reference. Applicants are required to divulge ALL their medical issues. Security clearance permits access to classified national security information. Bruce Kelly says: October 3, 2014 at 10:06 am. with an active Top Secret Security Clearance. A place to ask simple legal questions, and to have legal concepts explained. It maybe a waste of money. The idea is that this is blackmail material. How long was this job firing? Do you know how to get in touch with Tim?" I joined the Reserves back in 2013 where I annotated I did not do drugs on my Secret SF86. I have seen a few rare cases where criminal charges were pursued, mostly in instances where the falsification was egregious and involved withholding information on serious criminal conduct. For all of the Edward Snowdens and Aaron Alexises of the world, youd think that more subjects would be prosecuted for violating Title 18 Sec. An accomplished Executive Advisor and Transition Specialist (veteran advocate) with a specialization in the areas of . Anyone else experience this? or viewing does not constitute, an attorney-client relationship. He lied. , Investigative Request for Employment Data and Supervisor Information (INV 41), Booz Allen Supports Digital Transformation for Taxpayers, SAIC Launches Tenjin - a New Data Science Platform, The Biggest Background Investigation Myths, SF-86 and other Sensitive Data Exposed in U.S. Military Email Spill, The Pentagon is Now Addressing Use of Special Access Program Classification, 10 Defense Contractors Offering Sign-On Bonuses, The Ladder of Incompetence: 5 Reasons We Promote the Wrong People, General Dynamics Land Systems Wins Contract Mod for Mobile Protected Firepower Program, Security Clearance Application Headed for an Upgrade, Spring Storms Brewing Over Social Media Cases in the Supreme Court, Recruitment Scams on the Rise Following Tech Layoffs, Boeing Wins $1.2 Billion Air Force Contract for the E-7A Rapid Prototype Program. Be honest- your friend made his own bed. A person enlists before the SF 86 is completed - dont they?. Now I'm freaking out. If they don't really care you may get a "do they have a problem with drugs?" Many applicants worry that . Don't rely on the recruiter for anything ever again. Any lie, error, or omission in your security clearance application (SCA) can-and will-be used as grounds to deny you a clearance. majority of the persons life so it can be determined if he or she Should I mention my domestic violence arrest or my DUI? The agency can just leave it as a simple security clearance denial or revocation and the individual will still be eligible to apply for other non-sensitive positions within that agency or they can also debar the individual from eligibility for all positions within that agency for a period of up to three years. Ivanka Trump received her clearance around the same time. 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